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Post by TokenDragon on Jan 9, 2014 21:43:44 GMT
in edh you can't cast card that aren't in your color. but what if you have chromatic lantern and you just steal a card from an opponent hand ? can you still cast the cards or are you forbidden ?
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Post by Arker on Jan 9, 2014 22:46:55 GMT
You aren't explicitly forbidden from casting cards out of your color from other people's hands. However, the way that you laid out would not work. See, even with chromatic lantern, you can only produce color in your commander's color identity. All other colors would come out as colorless mana. A way around that would an alternate casting cost, such as Rooftop Storm to cast the Grixis player's Thraximunder. Another way would be Micosynth Lattice. |
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Post by TokenDragon on Jan 9, 2014 22:56:33 GMT
You aren't explicitly forbidden from casting cards out of your color from other people's hands. However, the way that you laid out would not work. See, even with chromatic lantern, you can only produce color in your commander's color identity. All other colors would come out as colorless mana. A way around that would an alternate casting cost, such as Rooftop Storm to cast the Grixis player's Thraximunder. Another way would be Micosynth Lattice. So if I play fiend of night shadows and made you discard a card out of my color. I I can't cast it? What about a land card? |
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Post by ThePr0digy on Jan 9, 2014 23:25:25 GMT
Alright before this gets too silly. You cannot produce mana outside of your commanders color identity from any source. Therefore, if you can play that card without using colors outside of your identity you're fine. Cards like lattice get around this because they say you may SPEND mana AS THOUGH it were mana of any color. You can play a land card assuming that you haven't played a land yet this turn, but that's not casting as it doesn't use the stack. In other words you're producing mana within your commander's colors but you're spending it as if it were another color. Also playing spells without paying their mana costs. [Edit]: Rulings of the card you mentioned:1/22/2011: You may only play the card, meaning play it as a land or cast it as a spell. It's not in your hand. You can't discard it, activate its cycling abilities, and so on. 1/22/2011: As long as the card remains exiled, you may still play it, even if Fiend of the Shadows leaves the battlefield or changes controllers. 1/22/2011: If this creature deals combat damage to multiple players simultaneously, perhaps because some combat damage was redirected, its ability will trigger for each of those players. |
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